this is much more exciting, with brian brown, who runs the organization -- the national organization for marriage. and he talks about how they were outspent this time. they have seen their support true. they are not going to go away. i agree with patrick, i think they could come back in a forceful way. but they have seen their support shrink and their grassroots support shrink and they have seen their donor base train. the mormon church as a player he did not see in this campaign. they were the dominant player and you also saw a a lot of the individual donors on that side, where is on the pro-quality side, you saw fair-minded people across the board standing up and campaigning for these initiatives on our side, and also digging deep in writing big checks. [inaudible name] was the single largest personal contribution, contributed 2.5 million in the state of washington. so you look across the board and arm in arm with our allies. >> the blue state argument, it's true. it happened in the blue state. >> okay, the state of maine has two republican senators and a republican governor. i wou